Go to your search engine and look up the following:
-"Matrix"
-"Element matrix"
-"Matrix vector element"
-"Element"
+* "Matrix"
+* "Element matrix"
+* "Matrix vector element"
+* "Element"
See? no related results of what we're talking about..
-## Servers uses HTTP for it
+# Servers uses HTTP for it
What the hell? Why do a completly separate server use HTTP?
HTTP upload file server is started by the XMPP server, not like
matrix, which depends on, let's say, nginx)
-## Centralization
+# Centralization
Yeah, Matrix is a decentralized protocol in theory, but in practice,
this is different:
* Everyone has their account in matrix.org
* Everyone uses element as their client, because all the others suck
-## Client is written in Electron!
+# Client is written in Electron!
What else do I have to say?
-## Comparision to XMPP
+# Comparision to XMPP
-Here's a literally stolen from 404.city table to compare XMPP to
-Matrix
+| blank | XMPP | Matrix |
+|----------------------|--------------------------|-----------------------------------|
+| Open protocol? | Yes | Yes but no |
+| Commercialn project? | No | New Vector develops Element |
+| Encryption | OMEMO, OTR, PGP | OLM |
+| Monopoly Network? | Many servers and clients | Most users use Element+Matrix.org |
-| blank | XMPP | Matrix |
-|------------------------|---------------------------|-----------------------------------|
-| Open protocol? | Yes | No |
-| Commercialn project? | No | New Vector develops Element |
-| Government censorship? | OMEMO is banned in France | French government sponsors Matrix |
-| Encryption | OMEMO, OTR, PGP | OLM |
-| Monopoly Network? | Many servers and clients | Most users use Element+Matrix.org |
-| Good sponsorship? | No | Yes |
+# BTW, how the fuck do I setup a fucking Matrix server?
+
+You literally can't i was trying to setup a Matrix server but i
+fucking literally couldn't, why do I have to setup nginx? I mean, yes,
+XMPP does also depend on Nginx but is highly optional. (just for HTTP
+file upload and nothing else) but Matrix FULLY depends in HTTP
+apparently.
>replacing X.
-- Anon
+
+>wayland is like the cheese i bought 1 month ago
+>1 month ago it was new sure
+>but then it just got rotten because it was never put in the fridge
+>except with wayland it should be the opposite of the fridge, it should get developed faster
+>since it's this incomplete this many years passed
+
+-- Diego
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even think on creating an account here. And would give info to feds
**SHIT TIER**
-Also, the website is **cuckflared**
+Also, the website is cuckflared
+
+on top of that, <xmpp://nuegia.net> admin sent a text to me:
+
+>404.city has more problems than you specified. For one, choosing an
+>account on 404.city is actively harmful to the federation as you are
+>unable to send messages or contact 404.city users unless they add you
+>to your roster first. Even worse 404.city users are not notified when
+>someone trying to contact them has been blocked. The message is just
+>dropped from their perspective.
+
+>the operator of 404.city is notoriously hard to contact, in fact his
+>domain he used for contact, faceless.city no longer exists. Sometimes
+>the operator pops up in the XSF operators chat, other times i have to
+>ask around in general for someone who knows him to ping him for me.
+
+>the operator of 404.city is not very responsive to issues, and almost
+>always will blame you for making a mistake when you contact them about
+>a service or interoperability issue until you explain it 3 times over
+>with XML traces what's going on and why it's their problem not mine.
+
+>To top this all off, the service is unreliable, frequently having
+>outages and is laggy. Responses to and from the server even if your an
+>external user connecting to a muc there are SECONDS behind on transaction
+
+The first paragraph is the most harmful in my opinion, because XMPP is
+good because it's a federation. But 404.city breaks the federation by
+only allowing contacts to message you **Remember that they keep the
+contact list**. So they fucking **literally** know who you talk to. In
+other servers you can make the server admins don't know who you talk
+to by just texting them, instead of adding them to contacts, but
+404.city makes this not possible.
+
+I don't know what he mean by faceless.city does not exist. It exist
+but it is cuckflared (and a non-existing website is better than a
+cuckflared one)
+
+But when he mentions that the operator is impossible to contact,
+that's true, partly because [He](/404fail1.png) [don't
+know](/404fail2.png) [English](/404fail3.png)
Snopyta
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